There are some awsome scores on hlstatsx but im thinking its time to reset them!

my tuppenth

every month on source as is now, but every 3 months on tf2

Every month; less people worrying about dropping 25 points per death, a good rank is still obtainable for late new arrivals to the server if they care and by setting an easier to achieve top rank target for everyone it'll encourage the hardcores to play more often to stay on top.

aww just reached 9000+ points :| but yeah i guess it's time for a reset

I guess it's time to kiss goodbye to my sexy gathered points then. </3
But every 3months sounds reasonable. :sigh:

Every month; less people worrying about dropping 25 points per death, a good rank is still obtainable for late new arrivals to the server if they care and by setting an easier to achieve top rank target for everyone it'll encourage the hardcores to play more often to stay on top.

+2 Agree!!!
I hate dropping 25 points per death, and i get 25 points after 12 kills =(

Reset NOW xD

Aww darn..:sigh:. My statistikerna! But yeah.. I'm with soup, thou I only play tf2.

Voted for a monthly reset,

New players coming to the server 6-8 weeks after a reset are less likely to stay and play due to the regulars having a massive point's and levels difference and will soon get bored of being cannon fodder for the top players.

With a monthly reset new players will have more of a chance to get some points and won't feel they can't achieve a high positon.

I feel that all the voters for a 3month reset will be high on point's and levels and will want to keep them, fair enough but it won't keep the new players sticking on the server imo.

yes but TF2 i s different, you don't have XP just points, so new players to the servers, once they have their 50 kills, can get points quickly by killing the high scorers. thereby, enjoying the game more. we all know how addictive points/ranks can be, so for a game like TF2 points make prizes, for source points makes unfair advantage against new players.

Sorry, was just on about wc:s.

yes i agree with a source reset monthly

But on TF2 I can see good players racking up high scores in a month then playing here a lot less over the remaining time because their score has plateaued (< spelling that correctly was a chore) and if you arrive at the server after 8 weeks in and the top set have ridiculous scores, even if your a great player you know you cant catch them and there'll get frustrated dropping so many points for you.

As for the high scorers, if you 8, 9, 10 thousand plus, the challenge for you will be to beat that next time but you'll have to play hardcore for 3 moths and hope you don't get sick or go on holiday or whatever in that time. If the resets every month in the same amount of time, you can set a goal, try and beat it and in the third month try again or just relax for a bit.

I'm all for more freequent resets, every 2 months maybe, but is there a way of keeping the awards? They seem to get reset as well. Maybe reducing the amount of points achieved by a kill, like a smaller multiplier perhaps?? At the end of the day, it's fun playing the game and sometimes points get frustrating and disillusion you.

I'm all for more freequent resets, every 2 months maybe, but is there a way of keeping the awards? They seem to get reset as well. Maybe reducing the amount of points achieved by a kill, like a smaller multiplier perhaps?? At the end of the day, it's fun playing the game and sometimes points get frustrating and disillusion you.

This reward thing sounds like an idéa! How about some golden statue (picture of a golden statue) where it says "#1 Between reset in 19.07.2008 to 19.10.2008" Now that would be worth fighting for!...

Well I think it's a good idéa! :x

A hall of Fame Page! it sounds good to me2!

I voted 3 months (for TF2 as thats all I play)
but 2 would be cool enough
1 is a tad short IMHO

I like the stats (a fun extra) but they do need reseting to discourage stats-padding just to get in the top 10 or whatever, as thats just a waste of a player slot :x

A hall of Fame Page! it sounds good to me2!

Excellent idea, with the player who topped the ranks in that period, and the winners of the most daily awards for the main sections perhaps?? Could be good and would give an aiming point for the next period. So that means 6 hall of fame places available each year with a 2 month reset?? Sounds good.

A hall of Fame Page! it sounds good to me2!

+4 Agree!!

Good idea, i love the healthy competition. ^^
And you could be awards for character (picture of golden weapons for example) or anything else.

=)

Cya!

Stats being reset isn't all that bad really..... if i dont think about it too much *sob*

Stats being reset isn't all that bad really..... if i dont think about it too much *sob*


if you need to talk about it the doctor is in
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reasonable rates charged!!

Stats being reset isn't all that bad really..... if i dont think about it too much *sob*

It's the thrill of the chase m8 :D I think I might hold off joining after a reset so I can get 25 points a kill :D:D And really piss people off :D:D:D

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Healthy competition is fine but if and when it becomes unhealthy is the problem. People will end up getting so worked up about winning they'll start stat padding and altering their play to achieve good scores, and this will negatively effect the play of everyone else on their team. Once an attitude of 'must win', and even winning at all cost, sets in, players get frustrated quicker and are more tense, this in turn creates a bad atmosphere on the server on as a whole. If it can be done, especially if it can be done easily, having a hall of fame is a great idea as it promotes the healthy competition, but it should definitely include some of the daily award type things to promote objective and fun and team play too. However I still think the reset should be every month, by having a hall of fame of whatever you can compete longer term by trying to win the most in a year without the need to play so hardcore all the time, as your stats wont take nearly as much of a beating if you want to just play for fun one day, as they won't be so ridiculously high in the first place. But more importantly resetting every month should help stem a negative atmosphere from arising on the servers due to over competitiveness.

Peggle ftw

fot win

Healthy competition is fine but if and when it becomes unhealthy is the problem. People will end up getting so worked up about winning they'll start stat padding and altering their play to achieve good scores, and this will negatively effect the play of everyone else on their team. Once an attitude of 'must win', and even winning at all cost, sets in, players get frustrated quicker and are more tense, this in turn creates a bad atmosphere on the server on as a whole. If it can be done, especially if it can be done easily, having a hall of fame is a great idea as it promotes the healthy competition, but it should definitely include some of the daily award type things to promote objective and fun and team play too. However I still think the reset should be every month, by having a hall of fame of whatever you can compete longer term by trying to win the most in a year without the need to play so hardcore all the time, as your stats wont take nearly as much of a beating if you want to just play for fun one day, as they won't be so ridiculously high in the first place. But more importantly resetting every month should help stem a negative atmosphere from arising on the servers due to over competitiveness.

Yes, we definitely need a hall of fame. *nods*

Resetting the stats is a good thing, I voted for 3 months though cause 1 or 2 seems not enough for me. Dunno why, just a feeling.


I see the stats are resetted already, just broke through 11K:cry:


When it seems to go to awarding for playing it should also have a kpd award, a top 3 award and something like the points devided through the time someone played.

Maybe there is more possible but that is just what gets up in my mind right now.

33.5K points is the target :mrgreen:

Some targets to....lets see whose the first one to 10,000 kills :)

Anyone knows why my position is hidden?

I also can't see it ingame bij '/rank'.

it is an option to hide your rank, not sure what the command is in game but someone far more intelligent than me will tell you i'm sure. Anyhoo, i have unhidden it now.

Just thought I would drag this issue up again with a few questions.

When is the next stats reset?
Are you going to save the stats for the hall of fame page?
Is there any news on changing the multiplier?
Are we going to take the upper limit of 25 points lost when killed off rawbanana? :D
Can I get double points for a kill and half when I die?
Can I go home early today?

Just thought I would drag this issue up again with a few questions.

When is the next stats reset?
Are you going to save the stats for the hall of fame page?
Is there any news on changing the multiplier?
Are we going to take the upper limit of 25 points lost when killed off rawbanana? :D
Can I get double points for a kill and half when I die?
Can I go home early today?

Good questions, wondering here too.

Just thought I would drag this issue up again with a few questions.

When is the next stats reset?
Are you going to save the stats for the hall of fame page?
Is there any news on changing the multiplier?
Are we going to take the upper limit of 25 points lost when killed off rawbanana? :D
Can I get double points for a kill and half when I die?
Can I go home early today?

28th June
yes
afaik it has been tweaked
no
no
only if your work is done.8)

Made it over 42k what was the goal and it's good to see Soup's defending bananas when they're invading nearby villages in Ikariam!

afaik it has been tweaked

Hmm...

Killer Points = Killer Points + (Victim Points / Killer Points)
× Weapon Modifier × 5

Victim Points = Victim Points - (Victim Points / Killer Points)
× Weapon Modifier × 5

Am I looking in the wrong place, it's still 5, or is that always displayed regardsless of what SC set?

Also, the suicide points loss. I take it this is indiscriminate, so grenades bouncing back, falling from a height, own sentry killing you etc. all lose the 25 points?

Simiancage.org || TF2 Server #01 & #02 Yes No No No Suicide -25

To help promote TF2 Server #3 I have moved hlstatsx from server 1# to server 3#

To help promote TF2 Server #3 I have moved hlstatsx from server 1# to server 3#

No stats on #1 then ? :shock:

No stats on #1 then ? :shock:
Fook me give the man 10 out of 10 for observation!

Fook me give the man 10 out of 10 for observation!

and a gold star.

lol :mrgreen:

/detects win in this sector

but more people voted for it NOT to be reset every 3 months than voted for it!!8)

That's because it was a Fox-kinda poll with only 3 real choises! And when you count them then not! *But I'm voting for every month now me thinks

are stats reset today? or another 2 months?

are stats reset today? or another 2 months?

Neither! I think its in a month going by the comment on the bottom of the HOF (http://www.simiancage.org/index.php?page=hof)

"Next Reset will be August 28th"

Yes i think it was decided to be every 2 months, and it is always done on the 28th.

hmmm stats tbh not a fan of them at all. imo they encourage stat padding and people are less inclined to play for the team.

reset them daily :D

hmmm stats tbh not a fan of them at all. imo they encourage stat padding and people are less inclined to play for the team.

reset them daily :D
Oh yes, I totally agree... they affect gameplay so much and it's much more fun to play without stats because you can play more like a kamikaze or use other classes you don't play normally.

I love stats.

I love stats.

you have just overtaken me :P all the best in keeping that place!

About 300 of those points were me on my own trying to warm up an empty custom server.

I barely notice those stats, so I don't really care.

I don't care about my own stats either, but as I stated earlier in this thread, they effect how other people play on the server (even if it's a small minority) and that in turn effects the whole team, and the atmosphere of the whole game/server can change.

If stats are so important, why is server 1 still the most popular server?:D

Because it's hardcore!

Because its server ONE therefore it has to be Simiancages number ONE server, it's trying to live up to its name XD

every month i think is mroe of a genuine aim, rather than coming on and ur like 8-10k behind top1 LOL

been playing for last 2 weeks ish and im into top 16 so yea.

1 per month

every month i think is mroe of a genuine aim, rather than coming on and ur like 8-10k behind top1 LOL

been playing for last 2 weeks ish and im into top 16 so yea.

1 per month

You would have to be a complete numpty not to rise rapidly in the stats if you're new to a server that's had stats accumulating for a few weeks. The points a server noob gets is loads compared to the top 20 guys. In TF2 its like 50 as opposed to 2.

lol i know im a noob but can you blame me i like potaotes :(

After playing on Server 3 today which was full of Server noobs I have to say this actual stats config really ruin the fun totally.
Loosing 25 points by getting killed by a server noob is ways to much to me.
After getting killed 4 times by server noobs and a minus of 85 points I disconnected from the server :(
As a top20 player it's very hard to get that minus to at least to 0.
I can remember as I had a kpd of more than 2 and still had a minus of 10 points.
I also can remember that you reduced the max. loss of points to 12 because many players complained about and I can't understand why you set it back to 25 after the reset.
Finally you always need to watch who's playing on the server, are there known players on and if not, you rather don't connect.
I don't play that much on the SC servers any more as I did before only because of the stats config... the possible loss of 25 points is always over your head like a dark cloud and I rather watch TV or play on another server than get really pissed by all this server noobs :(

sincerely yours
the sad gH0sTy :cry_:

I understand your point, I was like that before the stats where resetted too. Now I don't have the time to play that much and I feel much better because I dont give a shit about my stats. It is my goal to keep my kpd above 2 and that is going pretty ok.

You should try that too, it is much more fun.

Well Ghosty, after the reset this month on the 28th, just stay away until the last 2 weeks. Then play and be very very happy. :D

But I do agree. I would like to see a 100 kill before regular points, and the amount drop down to 10 or something. But I don't own the server.

As casey said, dont worry about the statts, just play to get a high kpd.

I am also a top 20 player, but will still connect to serv 2 or 3 if i want 2 play, i dont watch my stats all the time, (quiet Kylie!!), but check to see how i am doing during the game, if i end up with a skill change of 0 points i am happy, if i end up with a skill change of +10 points i am exstatic.

In other words just play to have fun, yes it is nice to be on top form, and high up in the stats, but if you are a top 20 player then you must have the skill to get there and stay there, just kill more ppl.

I've only just came back into action and already I'm up 2,500 points...but being that the stat reset is round the corner, I'm not too bothered about that. Right now, I'm playing to get a decent KPD ratio. Personally, to come back and end up at 2:1 makes me happy, so I'll be using the next couple of weeks to get back into the swings of things, improve and get myself back out there. :)

I've only just came back into action and already I'm up 2,500 points...but being that the stat reset is round the corner, I'm not too bothered about that. Right now, I'm playing to get a decent KPD ratio. Personally, to come back and end up at 2:1 makes me happy, so I'll be using the next couple of weeks to get back into the swings of things, improve and get myself back out there. :)
I wouldent be too bothered about your kpd in tf2. It means nothing. depending on what class you play your kpd will be all over the place, when i play soldier my kpd can be anything from 2:1 to 10:1 then if i play medic it goes to 0.5:1 or worse:shock: just keep playing and forget about your kpd:D

This was done because of that suicidescore discussion me thinks. And to make it easier to get your points up fast if you're far behind. What Casey said is so darn true: if you're not afraid of dying because lost points you can go to the kamikazeplaces and help your team.. The points you should look at are the ones when you press TAB (please don't laugh if I got that wrong). You can play the super l33t sniper sitting in the hole with awp when bomb is ticking and you're the only one left in your team (I know it's not the same since you have to buy those things and.. Oh man.. Where were we?) The point i was trying to make is that you should try your best to help the team and ignore those HlStats since they don't really tell how much you did to help the team rather how much you managed not to die (Darn my bro's steam got updated while writing this, think I'll try what's new)